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right now. >>> 7.8% unemployment. did president obama just win next month's election? jack welch says hold your horses on that 7.8% number. he doesn't really believe it. an influential florida congressman agrees. we'll talk to that congressman live and ask him on what he bases his suspicions. >>> a place in the united states where gasoline has now become hard for drivers to find. you will find out why coming up on "power lunch." >>> meantime, let's go to sue at the new york stock exchange. sue? >> the markets have been up all day long. we're up about 60 points or so on the dow jones industrial average and the big reason of course is the number that we got this morning, falling unemployment. we are now below the 8% level for the first time in four years. the question is how did we get there? here to explain all of that, our senior economics reporter steve leisman. steve? >> sue, thanks very much. sue, this number is a product of simple math. but whether it's telling us about the real strength of the job market is something investors and the fed are going to have to think long and hard
was on twitter. the former ceo of general electric jack welch, general electric i should say is a minority owner of this company, mr. welch tweeted, quote, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change numbers. jarek jarek -- jack welch accusing the white house of manipulating this month's jobs data so it would look better for the president. always up for a good conspiracy theory republican congressman alan west of florida concurred and wrote, quote, in regards to today's jobs report i agree with former ge ceo jack welch. chicago style politics is at work here. from there it was sort of off to the races. republican congressman paul brown of georgia, quote, september jobs report raises questions. quote, i don't think bls cooked numbers. i think a bunch of dems lied about getting jobs. that would have the same effect. that was from a senior writer at something called the washington examiner, a conservative thing online. eric bolling who is at fox news, he wrote, wow. obama labor department smarter than all 25 of america's top economists. or something far mo
. jack welch is here and only here. welcome, everyone, i am here no neil cavuto and this is "your world." the tweak that has everyone talking, jerk welch tweeting this moments after the release of the jobs report. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate? change the numbers. the labor secretary calling the charge "ludicrous." jack welch. >>guest: i have been called worse than that by some. look, i have no idea where this number came from but you look at it and we added 600,000 jobs in the government sector in august and september which is the largest number we have had since the study has been done, 600,000 jobs. in september, household employment added 780,000 jobs. that's the highest since 1983. i have been reviewing bigs all week, some dozen businesses. no one is stronger than they were in the third quarter than in the 2nd quarter. we have been told there are needed 150,000 to 200,000 to stay even. the last two months we have gone from 83 to 81, and now we are changing the household number assumptions. i don't know what the right number is, but i will tell you these numbers
about the jack welch. do we have that confirmed? i don't know that we do. jack welch may have resigned -- >> we don't have it confirmed. >> this is how we do things on fx. >> tweet about it right. >> i read the story. a story in fortune that says jack welch has resigned from his columnist job at fortune and reuters in the wake of the conspira his conspiracy tweet. >> it appears that he -- appears he was miffed about the fact that those publications wrote stories critical of what he had said. >> i wrote a critical story. sister publication. >> just for the record was totally insane. >> totally insane conspiracy theory, one of many floating out there. the repercussions -- >> also in the same piece asked to see obama's birth certificate. >> yes. >> i think his college records he's looking for now. >> how will jack welch pay the represent now? >> we're all worried. >> i'm sure you'll be taking up jobbers and birthers in your -- >> just become 47%. >> i am open to take that job if they need someone. >> thank you to my panel, john, rana, kamal and david's ebook, "47% uncovering the romney vi
at the business level and these numbers. what do i say? they're fishy. let me say one thing about jack welch that can't be said enough. there was no better ceo in america in the last 100 years than jack. he did it all. look at what he created, look at the value that was generated for people that own that stock. i'm biased. i sat on this board for six years but i can tell you right now i watched jack run a company. there was nobody better, nobody. he was all business. jack expected the numbers for what he said, not for what he wanted them to be. he was a realist. he's being a realist now and i think i am, too. these numbers don't square with what's going on in the economy. say what you want. >> jack had this, got this brand and never been hammered with criticism before. it's like, are you kidding me? you never heard of pcb, neutron jack, you've had -- he's had to put up with criticism. you do something the liberals their panties get in a bunch, but you can say, thisser' the sa they're the same ones that said bush lied, people died, which is a more heinous allegation to make. the bls, maybe th
two years in several decades during this recovery. >> you know, jack welch, the former ceo of ge, he tweeted this because he didn't believe these numbers. he tweeted "unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change numbers." now, there are others who are suggesting there was political influence over the bureau of labor statistics that are driving these numbers, trying to make the president look good only a few weeks before the election. you're familiar with the economists, the statisticians who work there. what do you say to these folks who see some conspirator yal involvement out there. >> that's totally, totally insane. i'm friend with jack welch and i tweeted him back. i said, jack, i love you, but on this one you've just flat out lost your mind. there's an ironclad firewall with criminal penalties for anybody at the bls to have any kind of political interference or to release any of the numbers early. it's totally impossible to do that. you've seen all the reputable republicans that have worked with the bureau of labor statistics in the past
. but some nay sayers wonder if it is too good to be true. jack welch, former ceo, tweets unbelievable jobs numbers, the chicago guys will do anything, can't debate, so change numbers. and one group suggested maybe somebody played with the numbers. >> very good timing for the president. if he mapped it out to be able to have it, this is one you would want to have. he placed the unemployment as the longest time in history knew. >> but the labor department scoffed at the notion that anybody manipulated the jobs report. >> it is collected by the interviewers who are all career federal employees. so you would have to imagine that the people who participate in the survey, and they do this voluntarily, are for some reason trying to manipulate things. >> and it is not unusual for the surveys, one based on asking the companies, the other based on asking individuals, to have a wide difference, why? the household survey shows all sorts of workers, including self-employed and certain agriculture workers. and it is based on a much smaller sample than the other businesses. keith hall says that the numbe
like barack obama say the numbers were cooked, were fixed. former ceo of g.e. >> jack welch. >> jack welch say they were fixed or something? >> he said definitely those guys from chicago they can't debate so they're cooking the books. >> bill: do you take that seriously? >> no. i do not take it seriously. i have to say jack welch gave us a good laugh because he he was serious. >> bill: welch believes these are bogus numbers? >> that's what he said. it's the kind of nonsense what's really book here. 50,000 they survey the establishment survey it's called services and government is about 150,000 there is a lot of volatility. people going around saying this hasn't happened in 30 years. >> bill: in your opinion though, there are more jobs being added pushed from full time into part time. they are younger, less educated. unskilled. lower paying. >> if you are working part time you come off the unemployment rolls, that goes into the unemployment rate. that's a legitimate thing to talk about this is important. 14.7% unemployment when you include the marginally attached to the workforce. tha
this week, but we did get numbers mixed and consumer confidence is good and unemployment and yet, jack welch, the former ceo of general electric as you just mentioned on squawk out on twitter today. he's been obviously critical of the white house for years now, but he says unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change numbers. that's the former head of a very large company. >> i'm on tv, and i remember jack sent me a fax when i was first on with mark haynes. i like you. i love jack. i'm trying to reconcile jack with the numbers because i trust jack and think he's terrific. i come back and say listen, they've been wrong -- he's jack. i don't think that they're phony. it doesn't make me feel that jack is off the reservation so much that i think that this particular issue -- i disagree with him. i read the tweet and i was, darn, jack, come on, man. >> let's say good is good. >> does this mark the turning point and we had david come out this morning where he was establishing 1575 and that's quite an upside for 2013 particularly if he's standing by a year-
is the former g.e. ceo jack welch. unbelievable job numbers. they can't debate so they change the numbers. he appeared earlier today on "your world." >> these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. every economist predicted roughly 90,000 to 120,000. this economy doesn't feel like the employment improved this level. it is just -- maybe it's a coincidence that the month before the election, we have a number that comes out 1/10th below when the president took office. >> sean: jack welch is not the only one tawing of this timely development. listen to what business insider said on fox business new york this morning. >> i feel like i am watching a movie, a suspense movie. because there is no way in the world these numbers are accurate. and somebody needs to dig real deep into this. how in the world, miraculously, we have the best flz 30 years, right before the election? somebody needs to do an investigation, like they are doing an investigation in libbia. they need to investigate the numbers because there is no way in the world these numbers are accurate? >
! >>> former ceo jack welch was the first to say there was a conspiracy with the jobs report. he claimed the chicago guys fiddled with the numbers but that didn't stop him from doubling down. >> i know these numbers are gathered by a series of wild assumptions. maybe they weren't right at 8.5, at 8.4. but it seems coincidental that one month before the election they would end up at 7.8. i don't want to take back one word of that tweet. >> remind you of anything? we'll discuss the first cousin of the birther movement, the jobbers. and a look at america's trust issues next on "now." [ female announcer ] most whitening strips promise full whitening results in two weeks or more. rembrandt® deeply white™ 2 hour whitening kit is proven to quickly remove surface stains and deep stains in just two hours. [ female announcer ] rembrandt® deeply white™: whiten in just 2 hours. >>> shortly after the bureau of labor statistics released the monthly jobs report friday showing the unemployment rate dropping to 7.8% former ge ceo got the jobber conspiracy theory going with a tweet suggesting chicag
a number that comes out 1/10th below when the president took office. >> sean: jack welch is not the only one tawing of this timely development. listen to what business insider said on fox business new york this morning. >> i feel like i am watching a movie, a suspense movie. because there is no way in the world these numbers are accurate. and somebody needs to dig real deep into this. how in the world, miraculously, we have the best flz 30 years, right before the election? somebody needs to do an investigation, like they are doing an investigation in libbia. they need to investigate the numbers because there is no way in the world these numbers are accurate? >> the same administration not telling the truth about benghazi and libya and the death of four americans. there are very important questions that need to be asked of the obama administration. when you look at the hardidate athere is no way to explain how the rate decreased from 8.1% to 7.8%. as the former director of the nonpartisan cbo put it, it is simply implausible. a few things to keep in mind. the real unemployment rate remain
. not everyone convinced, though. yesterday jack welch, the former chairman and ceo of ge, tweeted unbelievable job numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. he's obviously very influential man. when he tweets, people listen. is there any way that these kinds of numbers can be manipulated? >> he tweets, people listen, they retweet, they write about it and we certainly talked about it a lon on cnbc. the fact of the matter is the bureau of labor statistics has been calculating this number since 1948. it's a scientific survey. they poll 140,000 businesses. you definitely have a giant sample here. what some people are saying is a possibility is that the type of businesses sampled were ones that were skewed towards jobs added. those place where is they might have add more part-time workers. we also saw a giant jump in the number of people employed from the age group of 20 to 24. the biggest jump since 1964. some of these businesses that employed more young people being pulled? it's unlikely. it's really an issue of how much data you can actually get together in 3
an unacceptable situation. i think the president will concede that. >> jack welch has said today unbelievable job numbers, he tweeted. the chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so they change the numbers. is there any merit to the argument that these numbers aren't quite what they seem? >> i would be very cautious about saying that, piers, unless i had some kind of substantialation to it and of course, we don't want to sound like sour grapes over what is good news for america. somebody would have to show me the facts and then i would be glad to make the argument. >> do you think that either of these things, in the last 24 hours, barack obama's very lackluster, surprisingly poor debate performance, or these job numbers today, do either of them constitute in any form a kind of game change moment? >> i think the debate certainly does. americans watched those debates that may not watch the next two, that saw a mitt romney that was a direct contradiction to the hundreds of millions of dollars worth of attack ads, especially in swing states, that the obama campaign has spent painting mitt romney
not trust that number. :lou: what you do not want to do is pull a jack welch. he decided that this was a conspiracy of the chicago political thugs that run the country. megyn: unbelievable jobs numbers, these chicago guys will do anything. by the way, we have jack welch to explain that later on. :lou: that's exactly what you don't want to do. these numbers over the course of time, you should always be skeptical of those numbers. we should always be skeptical of anything government does. economic reporting is an inexact art and not always in science be one can i just ask your question? :lou: yes. megyn: unemployment is still very high. how are the american people doing? :lou: a sophisticated number, if you will, buried within the labor of statistics is the broadest measure of unemployment that is in the workforce, discouraged workers. that remains where it was last month, 14.9%. it is a sign that we are absolutely stuck where we have been. and that is a sincere shame. that means 23 million people remain in great pain and they are suffering as a result of an economy that is
-time or from their homes. some called it an anomaly and former ceo jack welch says these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change numbers. >> and who is participating, who's not working and who's tried to work, but dropped out. all of these things. it just raises the question, and i think there ought to be a good discussion how this number is calculated. >> labor secretary hilda so least angrily denied the unemployment figure was fudged calling the allegation offensive and republican challenger mitt romney said of the jobs number, this is not what a real recovery looks like. and romney was also campaigning in virginia, running mate paul ryan said of the number of jobs created said we shouldn't have to settle for this new normal. reprizing one of the convention themes that americans deserve better than mr. obama has delivered. critics seized on another line in mr. obama's virginia speech in which he denied believing in an entitlement society which he doesn't believe people are entitled to succeed. aides suggest the opposite. >> we don't believe that anybody is ensilenttitled to su
employment surged 873,000, but payroll says only 114,000 people went back to work. even jack welch said it, hard to reconcile these numbers. he tweeted, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so they change the numbers. that is harsh criticism. here with me is economist peter morici. which also have gary burtless, senior fellow? [no audio. what do you think. what a difference between the two surveys. peter, start with you. >> the bls is not cooking the numbers. i believe that. they don't do such a thing. there a anomalies. household survey counts self-employed people. a lot of people established home based business. they have been dissipating savings. that doesn't mean they're fully employed. to have 800,000 jobs created that would be 6% gain in employment in one month. that would be 135% rate per year, or some big number like that. that's crazy. on a compounded basis in economy growing only 1 1/2% a year. that's just silly. my feeling it is a lot of folks, home based businesses. pick up a little more here and there but they're not really fully employe
with numbers here. jobs numbers. a big supporter of your campaign, jack welch, sent out a tweet on friday after the unemployment report came out showing 7.8% unemployment, and jack welch wrote unbelieve jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change the numbers. do you stand by this comment from jack welch? do you think that the white house cooked the numbers in the jobs report? >> well look, we're just going to talk about the facts. there's 23 million americans who are unemployed. they're either looking for a job, they are giving up or underemployed. if we just look at the numbers and take that for what it's worth, and i don't know that we have to say much more about whether the numbers have been cooked or not. >> the numbers are also 7.8% unemployment the lowest since president obama was inaugurated, correct? >> well, let's take a look at those numbers and take a little deeper look and say, for those who are not looking for a job any longer, they're not in the work place. they're not in the work participation. if you were to add those to those numbers, we'd have abo
are cooked. i want to put a couple tweets on the screen from earlier today. jack welch said unbelievable job numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so change numbers. let's get the second one up. the second theory proposed is from a conservative righter. i don't think bls cooked the numbers. i think a bunch of dems lied about getting job. that has the same effect. quickly, make your point. it's depressing to ask this question, but how can we be confident because the numbers are legit? >> you have to know something about the bureau of labor statistics. this is an institution with incredible statistical integrity in how they collect, analyze and report the data. this is an absolutely ludicrous claim. we shouldn't give it any oxygen. in fact, half the people who are saying they don't believe the numbers then start citing bls numbers to show other point they want to make. this agency has been reporting these data for decades. the security that goes around. i've been writing about this on my blog today to see the details about how they make sure there's no political bias in he
, and some republicans, jack welch and others, have questioned them quite openly which most people find a little bit too far even by political gun slinging standards because these figures are widely accepted as being accurate. >> especially when they have to adjust them down, right, in the aftermath of earlier reports. >> also, assume the republicans were to win in november, they would be saying these figures are accurate when they come out under their watch. i think we should part that to one side. 7.8% is crucially under 8%. so whether barack obama wants to make too much of a big deal of this or not, the reality is it's removed one of the big sticks the republicans were beating him over the head about, which is hey, look, it's still over 8%. not anymore. >> right. as the president said today, we're moving in the right direction. we're not there yet but in the last year, we've seen that unemployment rate drop 1.2%. we haven't seen a drop like that in nearly 20 years. so that's good news. i think what it reflects is it's consistent with what we've seen in other polls recently that show
numbers so wrong. jack welch went further obviously the former ceo of g.e. and he said unbelievable jobs numbers. the these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so they change the numbers. set person who suggested something fishy was going on. >> and of course our own lou dobbs has said no the bureau of labor statistics is insulated entity and peter morris is i on our show a short time ago said no, this isn't the case that they would never cook the books for a white house. that's not something they would do. they are economists and statisticians and there might be anomaly in the numbers. here was jack welch yesterday talking to cavuto and he said something smells funny here, listen. >> these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. every economist this morning predicted roughly 90 to 120,000 and 8.2 unemployment came out very favorably just one tenth of a point below when the president took office. >> well, it's funny when people manipulate numbers back and forth on both sides. i always think about the 23 million people who don't have a job an
rothman. former general electric chief executive jack welch has resigned from fortune magazine. we took to the twitter account and the bureau of labor statistics boosting their latest jobs report to president obama's chances for reelection. investors bullish after a ratings downgrade. goldman sachs cut the company's ratings to sell with a $5 price target. it is overvalued giving deep liquidity and meager returns. the bearish town on wall street continues following a week forecast since global economic growth. investors are bracing for possible disappointing earnings season which unofficially kicks off with out, after the closing bell. that is the latest business from the fox business network giving you the power to prosper. tracy: when it is cold and dreary do you dream of running along the beach or through the california mountains? jeff flock getting a sneak peek at technology that takes you there. >> amazing what they do with treadmills. take a look this. you can watch tv on the treadmill and play a game or something like that but here they have developed a program that enables you wi
that there is further proof that the economy continues to heal. others not so sure. jack welch tweeted this moments ago. unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change numbers end quote. martha: hilda so liz says that that notion is lewd today rust. joined by chris wallace anchor of fox news sunday . good morning, chris. >> good to be with you. martha: what do you make about the backlash for this 7.8 number? >> it's understandable, because it's good news for president obama at a time when he very much needed it. the fact is that he had a bad debate, that his campaign was raoeulgs a reeling, is an overstatement but hit a serious pothole. and the talking point, which is that the unemployment rate under this president has been over 8% for 48 months, they can't say that any more. and obviously some romney supporters aren't happy about that. martha: whenever you look at the economic numbers i always wonder. obviously as you point out the president's detractors will try to mine mice the number and the president will build it up. it's down to everyone's individual econo
. >> christy, some of the attacks from conservatives, such as jack welch, saying they don't believe the numbers. they believe the books are cooked essentially. explain the process of how we reach these numbers today? >> there's spin, and then there are conspiracy theories, and the spin, which is valid, if spin can be valid, is that, you know, look, you still have only 114,000 jobs created on balance. anha's -- you know, you th ty pu together. right? one of them is a survey of people at home where you call anthpele s yes or no and explain how. the other is a survey of employers where they ask are you hiring? that's where the 114,000 number comes om114,000 number might not catch everyone who is working part-time from home or just working part-time or doing some kinds of contract work, so that's why sometimes thercran bwe no, they're noin t bt of bls cooking the books for some political reason. i would bring this one point, suzanne, if they were, wouldn't they have done that after the president gave his speech in charlotte? instead he gave a speech in charlotte, and it was a bad report the next d
the jobs number doesn't matter. is that in part this whole jack welch thing over the weekend around whether the numbers are real, does that matter in all of this? >> i think the jack welch stuff was crazy talk. and earlier in the year when you guys were down in washington on this, joe and i talked about it, there were between points that i would make. one, nobody messes or manipulates these numbers. but, took i think we exaggerate the importance of the numbers for this reason. the people who will vote on november the 6th know what they feel about the economy already. they're living it every day. so because there's a headline that says 7.8, it's a talking point, but they already know what their friends and neighbors are doing. >> when do we find out how romney is fun raising compared to that 180 million or whatever? >> i think if it was so par with obama's, we would have heard already. i think it's probably behind. >> you don't hear that that's unbecoming to have so much money to spend. just don't hear -- it's alway s the republicans. >> it's not decided by money. nice to have, but there is
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